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Marijuana addict
treytex

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Message #4256 posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

Im a pothead, a real live pothead who thinks not smoking pot 8 times a day could help me be a better person. I haven't smoked for four days and I seem to have a very uncomfortable feeling in my head directly above my pupils. I am also feeling high anxiety and irritable. Has anyone experienced this. How long does it take to feel OK without the grass. I seem to worry about alot of shit when I dont smoke. I do know one thing for sure. Marijuana is physically addictive or else I would not have withdrawal symptoms. Also is the saying true "Once a pothead, always a pothead"? Surely there is someone out there who used to smoke alot and cut down to smoking occasionally who can help me.



Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4263 posted by spo0ny2k (Info) August 31, 2003 19:12:03 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

im in the same situation mate....ive been smoking daily for about 3 years... and its beggining to take its toll....i consider myself an intelligent guy and i know weeds debiltating that fast..when i go to quit its all i seem to think about and i always end up lapsing.



Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4265 posted by budhamaster (Info) September 08, 2003 14:22:17 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by spo0ny2k (Info) August 31, 2003 19:12:03 ET

i know what your all on about. i used to be the same way until i just clicked and realised i'm throwin alot away because of a real lack of motivation in life. it also started to affect me in negative ways for exmaple i would always feel on edge and everything would catch me off-gaurd. i quit for a while and now i only smoke at the end of the week or when i have nothing to do for a while, maybe a day or two. i think u guys will feel better of if u accomplish certain worthwhile things on a regular basis then u can have a real rewarding smoke. these are rough guidelines and i think alot depends on what kind of personality u posess- i.e. whether u are more an introvert or extrovert, but just stay strong. peace



Re: Marijuana fag
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Message #4270 posted by forced registration (Info) September 26, 2003 12:46:17 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

a real live pothead wouldn't cry about being addicted to marijuana and whine about the withdrawl symptoms

i am a pothead too...after 10 years of daily toking i put the pipe down to travel overseas for a year...i had no problem with that but i would have a problem if i had to quit smoking right now because someone or something was forcing me to...maybe your withdrawl symptoms are partially due to the conditions that lead to your decision to quit

the cannabis withdrawl syndrome is very mild compared to REAL addictive substances...for example, caffeine withdrawl is so unpleasant that people cannot function at all for 2 - 4 days...alcohol withdrawl is called delerium tremens and it is potentially fatal...tobacco withdrawl doesn't make you sick but it leaves you twitching and craving a butt for YEARS after your last smoke....i've gone thru tobacco, caffeine, alcohol, and pot withdrawl and i can tell you that pot is the least problematic...you'll be fine in a week but you'll always want to smoke a joint because its fun...you'll probably have some trouble sleeping for a week because of insomnia, vivid dreams, and night sweats.

after you've quit for a month, try smoking a whole joint of AAA bud and you'll shit your pants...might even scare you off bud for life




withdrawals
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Message #4271 posted by trippruss (Info) October 01, 2003 09:01:09 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana fag posted by forced registration (Info) September 26, 2003 12:46:17 ET

just like anything in life, moderation & balance is what it's all about. you would withdrawl from water if you went overboard with it & developed a pychological dependance. people please remember; the mind is a terrible thing! most of us are in a prison of our own construction which is worse the any "the man" could ever hope to build. have been trhu the addiction thing with just about everything but the opiates, have lost several 'close' friends to heroin, over 9 buddies to alcohol & have seen whole penitentiaries full of lost souls just trying to fiind some balance



Re: Marijuana addict
Stone Shicksa

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Message #4279 posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 12, 2003 17:34:34 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

I had to quit a few months ago when my husband and I found out we were expecting our first child. I went through a lot of the same stuff and what helped me was drinking plenty of water and getting out for a ten or fifteen minute walk every day. You might also want to start taking a multivitamin every day. MJ constricts your blood vessels while speeding up your heart. The pressure you're feeling is probably from stressed out blood vessels in your head. Just help your body bounce back into a normal cardiovascular situation. Marijuana isn't even as addictive as nicotine, so I'm guessing you'll start feeling better within about two weeks. If you were a chronic, it will take from one to two months to get the cannabinoids out of you system completely, but certainly not that long to start feeling a little more normal.

And no, once a pothead always a pothead certainly isn't true. If it were, it would mean that people were unable to change for the better and we have way too many examples of that.

Good luck sweetie.




Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4280 posted by forced registration (Info) October 13, 2003 16:41:15 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 12, 2003 17:34:34 ET

"MJ constricts your blood vessels while speeding up your heart"

- i think you're talking about tobacco...cannabis relaxes and widens blood vessels and lung airways...its a bronchodilator and vasodilator...regular cannabis use decreases blood pressure


Endocannabinoids as cardiovascular modulators.

Kunos G, Jarai Z, Batkai S, Goparaju SK, Ishac EJ, Liu J, Wang L, Wagner JA.

Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Medical College of Virginia, Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, VA 23298, USA. gkunos@mail.nih.gov

Cannabinoids, the bioactive constituents of the marijuana plant and their synthetic and endogenous analogs cause not only neurobehavioral, but also cardiovascular effects. The most important component of these effects is a profound decrease in blood pressure and heart rate. Although multiple lines of evidence indicate that the hypotensive and bradycardic effects of anandamide and other cannabinoids are mediated by peripherally located CB1 cannabinoid receptors, anandamide can also elicit vasodilation in certain vascular beds, which is independent of CB1 or CB2 receptors. Possible cellular mechanisms underlying these effects and the cellular sources of vasoactive anandamide are discussed




Re: Marijuana addict
Stone Shicksa

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Message #4285 posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 20, 2003 19:07:37 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by forced registration (Info) October 13, 2003 16:41:15 ET

If cannabis doesn't speed up your heart while constricting your blood vessels, why does my heart race while my hands and feet get cold and blueish when I smoke pot (just pot. No tobacco). I'm not spooking for the feds and making up shit to scare your mom with, dude. I'm going off personal experience.

Your research shows long term effects. I was trying to give this person some insight into how to cope with the sudden lack of immediate effects.




As an aside: When I see posts on message boards run by something called the MariHemp Network, I automatically assume that the people I'm dealing with have smoked/are smoking marijuana or hemp, I assume that they can tell the difference between marijuana and all other combustible materials, and I try not to make comments that assume the other posters are fakes, posers, or children. Is there an initiation ceremony that I missed somewhere along the line or what?




Re: Marijuana addict
forced registration
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Message #4286 posted by forced registration (Info) October 20, 2003 23:52:28 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 20, 2003 19:07:37 ET

you didn't miss the initiation ceremony...you merely missed the point about blood vessel constriction

the reason cannabis speeds up the heart is because it relaxes and widens blood vessels...the sudden increase in available vessel volume makes the blood flow slower so the heart temporarily speeds up to maintain oxygen flow to the brain

there is no vessel constriction with cannabis but there is vessel constriction with tobacco




Re: Marijuana addict
Stone Shicksa

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Message #4287 posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 21, 2003 00:30:44 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by forced registration (Info) October 20, 2003 23:52:28 ET

ah hah. So I was half right.

But then again, that doesn't sound so good. MJ lowers your vascular pressure so dramatically that your heart is forced to beat faster in order to keep your brain alive? Okay, it might be good for someone with a disease that makes their blood vessels constrict, but for healthy people it sounds like a good recipe for a heart attack.

But then *again* again, a brisk jog will speed a healthy person's heart up - the oxygen needs to get to the muscles instead of the brain - and that's generally seen as a *good* thing.

So now I'm just confused.

I blame you :P








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Re: Marijuana and heart disease
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Message #4289 posted by forced registration (Info) October 21, 2003 10:28:38 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 21, 2003 00:30:44 ET

cannabis temporarily increases your heart rate by about 20-25% (this effect is less pronounced in experienced users)...thats about the same increase in heart rate for running up a flight of stairs or having a difficult bowel movement...if you are at risk of having a heart attack because you ran up the stairs or ate a loaf of white bread, then you shouldn't be smoking pot

tobacco constricts vessels which increases blood pressure which makes the heart work harder...the increased turbidity of the blood also increases the amount of deposits in the arteries (and vessels around the heart)...thats why tobacco creates a significant risk to the heart...but cannabis does the opposite: it widens blood vessels and decreases blood pressure...so cannabis does not contribute to the development of heart disease

famous fatso elvis presley died on the crapper while trying to void his bowels of those deep fried peanut butter on white bread sandwhiches...that doesn't mean that having a shit caused his heart problems...it was all the fatty foods and lack of exercise and probably genetic predisposition that were responsible for his death...likewise, cannabis is not responsible for causing heart disease even if it was statistically associated with heart attacks (which it is not)

if you do a search, you will find some 'research' study linking cannabis with heart attacks...i'd be glad to discuss anything you find




Re: Marijuana SNITCH
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Message #4308 posted by forced registration (Info) November 03, 2003 20:45:10 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 12, 2003 17:34:34 ET

stone shicksa has been hanging out at the forums at www.cannabisculture.com and bragging about how she gave her pot dealer's name and address to the police because he owed her $100...she said it was the "right thing to do"

SNITCH




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DoSaGe

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Message #4310 posted by DoSaGe (Info) November 04, 2003 00:08:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana SNITCH posted by forced registration (Info) November 03, 2003 20:45:10 ET

OUCH.



Re: Marijuana SNITCH
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Message #4311 posted by forced registration (Info) November 04, 2003 00:53:58 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana SNITCH posted by DoSaGe (Info) November 04, 2003 00:08:51 ET

here are a collection of her direct quotes from this thread:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=social&Number=707809&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all

STONERSHICKSA SAID:

"This dude who's helped me score a couple of times rolled up on me the other day and said he had a deal for me. He took my money and disappeared. So I turned him in. I know, I know, it's wrong to involve police, but I called and left an "anonymous" tip that this guy was dealing in town and gave them his address. And yes, if my husband and I ever see the asshole again, he's gonna get all his legs broke.

As for him spewing about me, being the person who turned him in does a world of good for them thinking he's just blowing smoke to worm out of getting his pad tossed (when I talked to the cops, I got the definite impression that they were already watching him).

I'll flip like burgers on this whole stinkin' town because they're a damn disgrace to the cannabis community. I did what I did (I was angry, yes, but I thought about this) to give this particular person a message. The next time Dude comes sniffing around for an easy twenty (and he will, eventually), he gets what he gets. Maybe a few broken bones will convince him not to fuck with people's lives like this anymore. My husband is willing to beat the shit out of him and then tell the police that he raped me. I'm wishing I had just taken my husband's .45 and blown his motherfucking eardrums out either side of his useless, bloated cuntrag head. Believe me, we *would* kill this motherfucker

What I did was right and the people who know what and why I did it think I (and they) are better off for it having been done. I don't want to get busted any more than anyone else. As for him... he's on his own now. Fuck him."





Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4345 posted by didi de moura (Info) December 01, 2003 18:23:29 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

Hi,
I've smoked hashish for a long time, Three and a half months ago I started to have panic attacks very often, because of that I decided to stop smoking.
After I stopped smoking, my life went down hill, I was panicking all the time, thinking that I was having an heart attack everytime this occured, waking up in the middle of the night with massive shivers and shaking, a great sensation of my chest and lungs crushing in, worse of all is the constant fear of death. I even walk to the local hospital in the darkness of the night at any time just to make me fell more secured.
I was admitted to a mental instituition a couple of times, what they told me was that, I was having anxiety and panic attacks due to have stopped smoking.
After all this time, I'm getting a bit better, but, still a bit unsecured about my confidence. From time to time I fell the same symtoms, not as often and strong as it use to. Also, I still fear to go out by myself.
I just want to let you know that you're not the only one experiencing that.
Just be patient and try to keep yourself busy as much as you can, eat healthy!!!!! Give up smoking pot!!!!




Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4347 posted by lookin4kronik (Info) December 03, 2003 16:12:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by didi de moura (Info) December 01, 2003 18:23:29 ET

I have personally never seen anything suggesting that weed is physically addicting, however a psychological addiction or even smoking so routinely could cause problems for a few reasons.

First when youre mind is altered, relaxed, sedated, and generally not normal for a significant portion of your waking life, seeing reality can seem too real, depressing, and frustrating. And as most of us know depression alone can be a severe medical condition.

Another factor effecting regular users is the level of THC and cannabinoids, including waste molecules that build up in the blood stream. While these will purge themselves naturally someone who smokes lots daily will find themselves maxing out the concentrations which is like hitting the wall(however these are slightly different phenomenon). While this lets you get high easier and from less weed, it also dampens the experience slightly and it will have a less profound effect.

I would recommend to those who smoke regularly and find the experience less than satisfying pushing the doses back and taking only one bowl a day or less. Your high will seem cooler if its more of a change from normal reality, and while i personally find pot-less incredibly difficult, I find my self much higher if I've been without for a couple of days and smoke allot all at once. Also daytime smoking seems to deminish my trip does anyone else experience this?

HOpe I've helped

peace out world




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Message #4414 posted by caity1111 (Info) February 26, 2004 23:36:19 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by lookin4kronik (Info) December 03, 2003 16:12:51 ET

Hey -- I know how you guys feel. Not smoking pot sucks. I smoked every day while I was in high school, and I graduated with a 3.8 GPA in the top 15% of my class. So anyone who says mj is guaranteed to make u stupid and unmotivated is full of shit. That only happens if you let it happen! Anyway, I quit smoking like a month ago cuz i needed to get a new job. Now i have ajob, and when i pass my test next week, i will go back to smoking. I cannot sleep worth a shit anymore. I think about shit too much. I miss having a joint to smoke at night cuz I sleep so nicely. I have never had any other withdrawl symtopms before, but i have brought myself to tears when i have called everyone I know and no one has pot. It is just psycologically addicting. I quit by not letting my self go out for a month. I just stayed home and drank a lot of alcohol and did schrooms and painkillers. doing other drugs helped me, but i found that sometimes when I did these drugs, i craved weed even more. So i don't know. Just try not to think about it. RIGHT NOW I REALLY WANNA SMOKE A FUCKING BLUNT. I love getting high. Okay well i g2g now cuz i keep thinking about how after next week I will be able to smoke. I am gonna try to sleep.



Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4440 posted by DavidN (Info) March 23, 2004 15:18:35 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

Hi Treytex and anyone else who has problems with withdrawal symptoms. Point 1 - If you're using Cannabis with tobacco then it's more than likely the tobacco you're having the withdrawal from. Tobacco is highly addictive and highly dangerous, full of chemicals including strychnine and formaldehyde (to name but a few). A vapouriser is best (without tobacco, cannabis only) or eat it in cookies etc. Point 2) If you feel as though you have had too much and are feeling 'off', have some Vitamin C and B vitamins. Smoking depletes these vitamins from your body and they are needed to feel good and be healthy. JeanN



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Message #4441 posted by zenkarate (Info) March 30, 2004 09:24:12 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by DavidN (Info) March 23, 2004 15:18:35 ET

As a daily stoner, I am now on DAY TWO (yes I am counting) of abstinence for the purpose of cleaning up to find a job. This country has become ridiculous, and I was all prepared to go with substitution until I found out there are no doors and the tester is standing right there. (bastards) As a wake and bake person I know it will take the maximum time for me to fully clean up. I once went 36 days and was still testing positive. My only withdrawal symptom seems to be an upset stomach. Good luck to all stoners that are quitting to find a job or for whatever reason. You can do ANYTHING you set your mind to, you have the power WITHIN. peace. xoxoxo



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Message #4442 posted by kannabis (Info) March 30, 2004 23:15:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by zenkarate (Info) March 30, 2004 09:24:12 ET

grass can affect anyone in different ways.the same way tobacco and alcohol affect people . some become alcoholics fairly fast while others might not ever..some get addicted to pills fast.. some don't...there are alot of factors also that determine addiction(age,chemical and genetic makeup,environmental and stress factors ) ,,i've seen people addicted to aspirin..K



Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4449 posted by gardensoflife (Info) April 05, 2004 22:21:42 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by zenkarate (Info) March 30, 2004 09:24:12 ET

I agree, you can do anything you set your mind to.

Anyways, I wouldn't consider myself a "pothead". That is an insult to me, though it may not be to others. I have been friends with many people, who are now "potheads". A pothead to me is someone who sits on the couch, smokes a joint, and watches t.v. day in and day out. These kinds of people are of no help to society. I smoke marijuana myself, but I consider myself an important asset to our growing economy. I own my own business, have 13 people working for me (and growing), and I have a lovley girlfriend, soon to be fiance, hopefully.

Now back on the topic. If you are having trouble quitting marijuana , or just cutting back, that is exactly what you should do. Just cut back on the amount of marijuana you smoke daily/weekly/monthly. This has helped me, and now I enjoy a nice rewarding smoke after a long days work.

Well, keep fighting to complete your goal. It will be worth it in the end.

GOL (gardens of life)




Re: Marijuana and heart disease
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Message #4486 posted by a46cap (Info) July 25, 2004 13:47:32 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana and heart disease posted by forced registration (Info) October 21, 2003 10:28:38 ET

I have been smoking pot since I was 15. I'm now 46. I earn a middle class living, and considered reasonably intelligent. I don't drink at all. BUT!!! and it's a big one. I have smoked cigarettes since a teenager. Result. 3 heart attacks and one quad bypass open heart surgery. (2 weeks ago). I have hardening of the arteries, from tobbacco use. And I'm proud to say I will never smoke tobbacco again. I'm looking for all the facts about marijuana and related heart disease problems I can find. There seems to be some conflict about the effects of how marijuana effects the heart, and arteries. If anyone would care to share some informative links with me I would greatly appreciate it. I plan to continue smoking pot, after I heal. But not with the frequency that I did. (every day).
Since I will be off work for the next 3 months, anyone who would like to discuss this reasonably is invited to e-mail me.




Dear Shicksa,
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Message #4639 posted by shekes (Info) February 15, 2005 14:00:14 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by Stone Shicksa (Info) October 12, 2003 17:34:34 ET

you seem well informed and I would appreciate knowing your sources. You will find me at the most popular hot place.

also check out this newest link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4244489.stm


Along with shrinkage of the brain this is the most serious health problem resulting from smoking pot known today.

Note that they define a "moderate user" as somebody smoking 70 joints a week and a "heavy user" as somebody who smokes 350!
Personally I would say that I myself have been a "heavy user" at some points in my life and met quite a few people that, in my opinion, would qualify as such as well. However, I have never ever smoked 350 joints a week and I do not think that I know anyone who does/did.

Imagine that! Appearently some people are keeping themselves busy rolling joints a few hours a day and, in Montreal, it must cost them somewhere between $3000 and $10000 a month!
350 joints a week makes for 3 joints every waking hour or one joint every 20 minutes, on average. Substracting the time when it is impossible for an average human being to smoke, like shopping, transportation or any public places or time when both hands are needed, and considering that smoking one joint takes about 10 minutes it would imply that those people ALWAYS smoke! They couldn't go to a restaurant, bar, see a movie, and they definetely cannot work. ($3000/month without a job?)

To me the number 70 is already damn close to the limit and therefore I believe that this research has little practical value.

But what do I know? I have only been smoking pot for over twenty years and perhaps I smoked so much that I it made me dumb.




"i think you're talking about tobacco"
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Message #4640 posted by shekes (Info) February 15, 2005 14:02:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by forced registration (Info) October 13, 2003 16:41:15 ET

Unfortunately, she is not: check out this link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4244489.stm

Along with shrinkage of the brain this is the most serious health problem resulting from smoking pot known today.




Re: Marijuana addict
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Message #4687 posted by Zarman (Info) May 01, 2005 08:24:34 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by budhamaster (Info) September 08, 2003 14:22:17 ET

I smoked daily and because it is a relaxing herb it made me lazy so to speak. However, realizing that I was being less productive, I just cut back completely and only did it on the weekends. I've since had no problems. Even so, pot never got in the way of anything. I still had a job, I was still biking and doing what I normally did, except that I was doing less chores, but that is also because they suck. What I'm getting at is that your state of mind is what gets in the way, there is no such thing as withdrawl with pot. Your head likes it because you are kicking back not worrying about daily shit. I tell you, I cut back to only smoking the weekends and you actually get higher. I was smoking dro daily and it got to the point where I wasn't hardly gettin high... so I skipped a few days and viola the kick was back... Just remember some people have an addictive personality, some people get addicted or mentally addicted to even foods.



Marijuana non-addict
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Message #4690 posted by spitkah (Info) May 11, 2005 22:45:29 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

You're freaking out. I am in my 35th year of smoking pot. If I don't want to smoke it for a while, like six months, I don't.

Louis Armstrong smoked pot all of his life and it was a wonderful world for Louis. He saw trees of green, skys of blue.. friends shaking hands...

"Gage, tea, muggles, reefers, and a dozen more names for marijuana, were common parlance among jazz musicians and friends who were 'Vipers.' This word has a period ring today, but was much used (as was tea) in some jazz circles during the `30s. It found its way into quite a few tune titles, among them Mezzrow's "Sendin' The Vipers," Snuff Smith's "If You're a Viper" and Fats Waller's "Viper's Drag." The rest of the marijuana-smokers' jargon infiltrated respectable society by way of record labels and catalogues and music publishers' lists. "Golden Leaf Strut," "Muggles," "Texas Tea Party," "Chant of the Weed," "Song of the Vipers" and "Smokin' Reefers" are random examples of `celebratory' recordings made in the `20s and `30s.

Louis was caught with some stuff and sentenced in March 1931. He never recounted the story of this affair until shortly before his death in 1971, when he agreed to 'tell it like it wuz'. This was that story.

Speaking of 1931 - we did call ourselves Vipers, which could have been anybody from all walks of life that smoked and respected gage. That was our cute little name for marijuana, and it was a misdemeanor in those days. Much different from the pressure and charges the law lays on a guy who smokes pot - a later name for the same thing which is cute to hear nowadays. We always looked at pot as a sort of medicine, a cheap drunk and with much better thoughts than one that's full of liquor. But with the penalties that came, I for one had to put it down though the respect for it (gage) will stay with me forever. I have every reason to say these words and am proud to say them. From experience."

http://www.cleartest.com/testinfo/louis_armstrong.htm




Yo Shekes!
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Message #4854 posted by Sam The Dopehead (Info) February 05, 2006 08:21:24 ET
In Reply to: Dear Shicksa, posted by shekes (Info) February 15, 2005 14:00:14 ET

Yo Shekes! How many joints did u smoke a week. Also,were you tokin everyday, or just a few times a week? Did u come to any serious harm? Just interested, so I can get more and more info on the long term effects.

I smoke weed about 1 or twice a week, but smoked loads over the summer and built up loads of tolerance at one point. Now, it takes me about 10-15 j's to get wrecked. Any less, and the high is sometimes a little good but wears off too quickly. W€hen I first started, I'd be fucked after a few drags. For theb past six months I've been tryin' to take a months break to become lightweight again and always end up lapsing. I'm not dependant, but just love the high sooooo much! I managed to last 2 weeks 1 time back in October. Now I'm tryin; yet again and it's been 2 weeks and 1 day so far. I'm gonna try and last another week or 2 nso once I start again I will be completely lightweight. It was boredom over the summer that caused this problem and this year I'm gonna make sure I don't end up like that again. I'll keep myself well occupied and try to stay more in control this time. I feel proud to have lasted all this time even though tt's not that much, I feel glad to have done this and after lasting all this time I don't want to undo all that effort like I did before. It's taken a bit of effort and willpower and I had to avoid hangin' with my mates who toke. But I did manage to turn down a toke twice and felt good for that, but realised at the same time that because there wasn't enough to get me high, there wasn't any point in smokin it anyway. I also avoid stockpiling up any weed 'coz I'd end up smokin' it. I'm okay with stoppin as long as I don't get too overrun by temptation. I just need to bide my time and do as much as I can for comfort and to make it easier. I must admit, even though I wasn't dependant, I did find I thought about weed quite a bit for the first week and could have easily given into temptation and nearly did, but thankfully my dealer had nothin on him so it was kind of a relief as I was tryin' to sort a m8 out and she offered to share sum with me. After 7-10 days I found it so much easier.




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Phife

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Message #4859 posted by Phife (Info) February 16, 2006 17:01:42 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

Here's your problem. You do it too often/too much.

The same thing occurs with booze and even with caffine. Ask yourself this: Would drinking 8 double expressos or getting drunk 8 times per day be healthy? Hell no.

Same thing with the grass. You have to detox. The best thing (and worst thing) about pot is that there is really no hangover... you just come down. So, without thinking, you smoke again, and again, and again.

If it was alcohol, you would be getting some serious hangovers that may force you to take a day or two off inbetween. So, with weed, do just that: take a day or two off inbetween smoke-out sessions.

Another really great thing to do when you are a "life-er" pot head is to set aside some time each year to detox. Pick a 2-3 month period of time every year that you will not smoke weed. This cleans you out and helps reduce your tolerance. I generally take the spring off, plus, that motivates me to go plant some crops.




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Message #4865 posted by Sam The Dopehead (Info) February 26, 2006 17:51:26 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana addict posted by Phife (Info) February 16, 2006 17:01:42 ET

I lasted 32 days before I sparked up and still wasn't high. I smoked 3 spliffs. I think I may take a little more time off. Would smokin' once or twice a week make my tolerance creep down bit by bit that much or generally stay how it is. I think my diet made it worse. They say healthy eating is good 'coz you have less fat inside you and there's less fat for the THC to absorb and the thinner you are the better. Does this include what you last ate: e.g.: would a a few burgers make it harder to get high?

Also, would eating when stoned bring my high down? I heard it does, and though maybe I should not have munchies when stoned anymore.

Any more info on this would be well appreciated.

Peace

- Sam




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Message #4866 posted by bengen (Info) March 04, 2006 14:50:20 ET
In Reply to: Re: Marijuana fag posted by forced registration (Info) September 26, 2003 12:46:17 ET

Hiya

I have to aqree strongly with Forced Registration - smoking weed can be combined with intelligent functioning and a productive and rich life - as long as you keep things within reasonable limits.

I use weed as a remedy against depression and dystonia, have been for years. Until now I've been able to combine it with a fairly high-level management position,family life, and lots of rewarding hobbies.

I have had a couple of longer periods without weed and did feel mild withdrawal symptoms, but I don't think physical addiction is a major problem, psychological addiction can be more problematical I think.

Sometimes when I've been smoking like 8 times a day I've felt that it affected my cognitive functioning which leads me to believe that moderation is the key word.

My advice is - cut down. Live a full, rich, productive life and treat yourself to a toke every now and then, on a friday afternoon after a weeks work, on a wednesday evening after a board meeting or a difficult exam. Use the weed like red wine - as a treat and a blessing, but remember - too much of a good thing is bad for you.

My view - 3 to 4 smokes a week - no problem. 8 times a day - baaad.


All the best

Bengen




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Message #4934 posted by erroljoy (Info) January 29, 2007 17:16:25 ET
In Reply to: Marijuana addict posted by treytex (Info) August 25, 2003 16:10:22 ET

hi how u going its been long time since u posted yr message but i thought id try anyway did u do it r u straight now. im 37 have been smoking since i was 15 everyday as much as i could. im stopping now its my 3rd day and i feel rank my emotions r all over the place cant sleep or eat sweating teribly how long will this go for and will i do it did u??who would have thought that what was known as a harmless weed could b so hard to leave



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Message #4935 posted by forged registration (Info) January 29, 2007 17:45:49 ET
In Reply to: "i think you're talking about tobacco" posted by shekes (Info) February 15, 2005 14:02:51 ET

since the thread is active again
this link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4244489.stm

suggests that a moderate user smokes 10 joints per day and that a heavy user will get permanent damage from smoking 350 joints a week...thats 50 joints a DAY or about 3 joints an hour...i'd agree that smoking 50 joints a day is not good for you, but otherwise, that 'research' is pure drugwar propaganda

its bad enough to have the drug warriors spreading disinformation about pot - lets not help them




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