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Pregnacy
Message #122 posted by April 14, 1998 03:58:56
HI!!!

I´M A YOUNG MAN, CANNABIS-SMOKING OFCOURSE, MY GIRLFRIEND IS SMOKING CANNABIS TO AND SHE´S PREGNANT, AND NOW THE QUESTION IS: DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF IT HURT´S THE BABY OR KNOW ABOUT ANY INFORMATION ON THE SUBJECT




Re: Pregnacy
Message #123 posted by April 14, 1998 06:54:48
In Reply to: Pregnacy posted by April 14, 1998 03:58:56
i don't think smoking anything while you're pregnant iz a good idea, but that's just me and i don't know all of the scientific implications of herb on preggo women. If i were u, i would not let her smoke anymore, you neva know.Be very cautios



Re: Pregnancy
Message #124 posted by April 14, 1998 09:20:45
In Reply to: Pregnacy posted by April 14, 1998 03:58:56
Matthias Illum. I don't believe marijuana has been found to
be a problem when smoked by pregnant mothers. I am not
sure though. I believe some studies were done in Jamaica
and/or Costa Rica of heavy smokers who had smoked for
decades. Click the link below to get to Cannabis.com's
medical links. Hunt around those links until you find the
info you want.




Re: Pregnancy//ATTN: Matthias Illum!
Message #125 posted by April 14, 1998 11:10:16
In Reply to: Re: Pregnancy posted by April 14, 1998 09:20:45

Matthias Illum:

Congrads to you both. This is a 'pet' topic of mine. I agree w/ Tom Paine. I read somewhere on the www that a study was done in Jamaica (I'm pretty sure) of pregnant moms who use and who don't.

They found evidence of what might be called 'fetal cannabis syndrome'. NOTE: unlike fetal alcohol syndrome, which is *VERY* bad, fetal cannabis syndrome is GOOD! The babies born to regulars cannabis users were born bigger, healthier and (we may presume) happier!

The babies were also more mature, and better 'adjusted'. They did'nt startle as easily as the 'normal' babies did.

The report said the author(s) did'nt know whether the babies born to toking moms were (healthier, *my* word) bigger (etc.) because their mom's used cannabis or because they tended to be richer than mom's who did'nt use cannabis. (Richer folks probably tend to 'use' more than poor folk... a connection between usage and wealth???)

It's my *opinion/feeling* that cannabis improves the health of both mom and baby. Also that if given to young kids between ~1 1/2 and 2 1/2 years of age that this will help their 'happiness' center(s) of their brains develop properly...*so they well have happier, healthier lives*.

I can go into the medical details if you want another time.

Ps: If people are afraid to use cannabis when pregnant and to give it to young kids/pets then they can get a similar effect by having the pregnant moms and young kids play alot and be as happy as possible. To be avoided at all costs are things like; beatings, 'sh*t fits' and the like. These can cause permanent (developemental brain) damage and lead to people like Hitler and the present dictator/monster of Iraq -- (both were beaten by their dads.)

Peace, Health and Happiness to all Kind Creatures. --Ff.




Re: Really???
Message #126 posted by April 14, 1998 13:00:54
In Reply to: Re: Pregnancy//ATTN: Matthias Illum! posted by April 14, 1998 11:10:16

This is troubling me, you're saying it's GOOD for a pregnant woman to ssmoke jivies?? I'll be damned. That sounds very strange that it would actually make her have healthier, bigger, (and maybe happier) children. Soundz like a good idea, thanx for the info. This iz one thing that you people have taught me about , hey smoking during conception iz the bomb!!!Try it!!



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Message #127 posted by Hellraizer (Info) April 14, 1998 18:20:37
In Reply to: Pregnacy posted by April 14, 1998 03:58:56
I think smokeing pot is NOT good for pregnant women. I belive its not good for the unborn child and it would take alot of scientific literature from well known physicians to change my view.
There is alot of different toxic poisons released when pot is burned/ Heart rate becomes unstable/ Nervous system gets jumbled up, these are just a few reasons I belive its not good for the child, not to mention THC is stored in fat cells.
This is just MY personal opinion, but I ask you to request your lady partner to refrain from smokeing pot till the child is born, after all, people who DONT smoke pot have healthy children and thats proven.
Peace PuFfPuFf



Re: Pregnacy
Message #128 posted by April 14, 1998 19:48:31
In Reply to: Re: Pregnacy posted by Hellraizer April 14, 1998 18:20:37
Hellraizer:

Thankyou for your input.

There are also sound, logical, medical reasons to believe cannabis is good for mom and unborn child (in addition to the Jamaican sp? study I mentioned in my previous post.)

To avoid the deleterious effects of smoke one could use a vaporizer, or, at the very least, hash or some of izzy's great 'hydro'.




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Message #131 posted by Mike (Info) April 17, 1998 14:00:28
In Reply to: Pregnacy posted by April 14, 1998 03:58:56
My daughter is pregnant and i asked the same question a couple of months ago. I got much the same response as you are getting and i did an awful lot of research...the result is that there is no conclusive evidence either way. some studies show that cannabis use is advantageous for both mother and child and others have the opposite conclusion.
Result??? dont use the weed whilst pregnant. You have a choice, even though you are insufficiently informed..the baby doesn't. You owe it to the baby not to take uninformed actions that affect it's life. Well, that's my opinion, forwhat it's worth




Re: Pregnacy
Message #192 posted by June 19, 1998 09:03:19
In Reply to: Re: Pregnacy posted by April 14, 1998 06:54:48
You have probably already made up your mind and toked a ton by now, but I wanted to offer my 2 cents anyway. Brace yourself, this is long. First, your baby can't make a choice not to smoke pot and it is unjust in my opinion to do anything which affects someone else without "informed consent" impossible in this case. And everything mother does affects baby. Second, seemingly harmless substances can be dangerous for the undeveloped nervous systems of fetuses and babies. Think of aspirin and how it initiates Rheyes Syndrome in children. The jamaican babies cited in the previous posting may not have startled because they were less attuned to their surroundings. The retarded and abused children/babies I worked with also did not startle easily. And the babies exposed to drugs during pregnancy either cried all the time or almost never. Babies are supposed to cry, it's good for them. I would question the scientific chops of any researcher who thinks silent babies are a good thing. Has anyone found the spider experiments online? Spiders were given various drugs to see how it affected their nervous sustems through web-building. Charlotte on pot was pretty goofy. What I'm driving at is this: pot alters nerve impulses in mature organisms. But those nerve pathways are fragile and half-formed in a fetus and they generally react badly to chemical tampering. You may unknowingly lower your baby's IQ or cause other nervous system imbalances that are not apparent until your kid grows up. The only adult person I know whose mom definitely toked up during pregnancy had problems which made it difficult for him to get through this world: poor motor skills, poor memory, difficulty processing sensory inputs. And he had a nurturing family. Those Jamaican baby studies are really incomplete unless they include a follow-up into early adulthood since nervous system abnormalities may not show up until then. and the pot babies may be fatter because the moms had an increased appetite, you think? Jamaica is a third-world nation living in poverty and a poor woman who feels nausea probably won't eat enough good food to help her fetus size up well. Ultimately, no sane mama wants to use her baby for a guinea pig. Go to a really good neo-natal unit at your local hospital and talk the subject over with docs and nurses who have dealt extensively with babies of mj users. I find (as a budding scientist) that it helps to get info from experienced people who *don't* agree with you, a different or cynical perspective can really help, especially if you like what you're doing and see no reason to stop. I have seen too many innocent little ones messed up by recreational drugs so I say, it's only a few months without weed and anybody can handle that. Your body changes drastically during pregnancy and things that used to be ok may not be good for you. Save the money for prenatal care and a good midwife! And good luck.



Re: Pregnancy
Message #199 posted by June 23, 1998 18:03:50
In Reply to: Re: Pregnacy posted by June 19, 1998 09:03:19
katya, I agree with you and others here that it is better
to err on the side of caution, but there is a HELL of a lot
of propaganda out there about "crack" babies, etc.. I have
read a LOT about marijuana studies. I have yet to read of
credible evidence that smoking marijuana hurts babies when
they are young or when they are grown up. The US government
has been looking HARD for such evidence, believe me. And my mother (retired) use to work in pediatrics in hospitals. They are as misinformed as everybody else. I have left a link below about the "crack" baby myth.
____ Researchers often forget to separate out the effects of prohibition-induced poverty (due to costs of crack), the resulting malnutrition, and the effect of malnutrition. Crack itself is just cocaine. Cocaine is used medically for anesthesia to this day. You also have to account for all the crap that cocaine is cut with (especially powder cocaine). I'll bet that the dangerous effects of tobacco on babies is also partially caused by the hundreds of synthetic chemicals allowed in tobacco. This is all basic research science 101. But many people get bamboozled by drug warriors masquerading as scientists. That's why kids to this day think that street heroin is just as safe as marijuana. We need facts not propaganda. The facts exist NOW, for the most part. Click below.
http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/plants/coca/smoke.html
[Smoke & Mirrors: Republican Medicaid cuts & Crack Baby Myth]




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