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Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???)
Message #1034 posted by 2nd Trimester January 22, 2000 22:18:25 ET

I am curious to know how much weed you all smoked while you are/where pregnant. 1 joint/blunt a day, week, etc. I know people who smoked while they were pregnant but most people I know just said occasional joint (YEAH RIGHT). I really do not believe that smoking weed (not to include alcohol and/or tobacco) will harm your baby. But I do know that it can make you gain weight which may increase the birth weight. Not a fact just a comment!!!




Re: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???)
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Message #1035 posted by BilboBaggins (Info) January 23, 2000 23:08:15 ET
In Reply to: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???) posted by 2nd Trimester January 22, 2000 22:18:25 ET

Smoke contains carbon-monoxide, which CAN decrease your baby's weight by depriving him/her of oxygen that would otherwise be in your bloodstream. That's a crappy way to start out in life.

Bilbo




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Message #1042 posted by cryote (Info) January 28, 2000 07:38:38 ET
In Reply to: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???) posted by 2nd Trimester January 22, 2000 22:18:25 ET

.Marijuana-Smoking Mothers
in Jamaica Bear
Developmentally Superior
Babies One tragic ill effect of the illegal status of marijuana
is the difficulty it creates in performing scientific research into
marijuana's physical effects. As a woman, I feel particularly robbed
by the lack of studies into cannabis use during childbirth, to relieve
morning sickness associated with pregnancy, and for the pain and
discomfort of menstrual cramps and PMS. (Strong cannabis
tinctures have been used during labor since at least 2,000 B.C., and
even prudish Queen Victoria used it to relieve her menstrual
cramps.)
It has occurred to me that since many women suffer from severe
morning sickness while pregnant, and since cannabis is perhaps the
most effective anti-nauseant known, using the herb might allow
pregnant women to better nourish themselves possibly improving the
health of their children. Yet women in this country often cease
smoking marijuana when they become pregnant, because they do
not feel enough is known about what effects the herb may have on
their child.
Despite the prevalence of marijuana smoking among women of
child-bearing age, few behavioral studies have been performed to
date on babies whose mothers smoke, and these are conflicting and
inconclusive in their findings.* Studies have been plagued by
inconsistencies in measuring techniques and difficulty in controlling
possible confounding effects of factors that could lead to differences
in newborn behavior, such as multiple drug use, nutrition, age and
socioeconomic status. Furthermore, the illegal status of marijuana
makes self-reporting data suspect.
A March of Dimes sponsored study recently published in the journal
Pediatrics is remarkable in several ways and emphasizes the need
for further studies. The researchers were the first to use seven
supplementary items on the Brazelton Neonatal Assessment Scale in

a study of the effects of in utero drug exposure, possibly measuring
for more subtle effects than previous studies. They conducted their
research in Jamaica, making theirs the first such study done outside
of the United States and Canada. The researchers noted that while
in the U.S. and Canada marijuana use is mainly recreational,
"scientific reports have documented the cultural integration of
marijuana and its ritual and medicinal as well as recreational
functions." The mothers studied were mainly the so-called "Roots
Daughters," a relatively new group described as women with a
purpose who can "think, reason and smoke like a man." Self-reliant
and dignified, many of these women smoke on a daily basis and
continue to do so during pregnancy and breast-feeding.
The study tested 24 Jamaican newborns exposed to marijuana
prenatally and 20 nonexposed babies from socioeconomically
matched mothers. The babies were compared when one day, three
days and one month old by a Harvard-trained examiner who was
unaware which babies had mothers who smoked.
The results at one day were thrown out because of differences in
birth times, and the researchers found no significant differences on
day three. At one month, the children of marijuana-using mothers
scored markedly higher on autonomic stability, reflexes, and general
irritability. Babies born to the heaviest smokers (those who smoked
every day, at least 21 joints weekly) scored significantly higher in 10
of the 14 characteristics measured, including quality of alertness,
robustness, regulatory capacity, and orientation.
Even accounting for factors such as a higher level of education and
more adults per child in the heavy-marijuana-smoking mothers'
cases, these results are highly significant. No ill effects from
marijuana were found, and quite possibly there were dose-related
positive effects. The researchers recognize the preliminary nature of
the study, but go so far as to speculate that, "It is possible ... that the

outcomes at one month are related to neonatal exposure to
marijuana constituents via breast milk.
Nineteen of the 24 Jamaican mothers reported that cannabis
increased their appetites throughout the prenatal period and/or
relieved the nausea of pregnancy. Fifteen reported using it to relieve
fatigue and provide rest during pregnancy. It is also possible that
these positive effects were responsible for their developmentally
superior babies.
It is significant that these superior children were born in an
atmosphere of acceptance and reverence for the herb.
Unfortunately, this is seldom the case in this country.
A law is on the books which would allow the Attorney General of
California to distribute confiscated marijuana to researchers, and this
step should be taken immediately. We must further demand an end
to the persecution of our people, so that we and our children may
flourish in an atmosphere of tolerance, understanding and peace.

http://www.ukcia.org/medical/e_komp.html




Re: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???)
Message #1427 posted by Heather March 31, 2000 23:28:11 ET
In Reply to: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???) posted by 2nd Trimester January 22, 2000 22:18:25 ET

I cut down my herb smoking down slightly when I found out I was pregnant. I was a very heavy smoker though, so I would still smoke up to 4 joints or so a day at times. I found it helped with the crazy hormonal changes, but I did gain a lot of weight-55 pounds to be exact! My baby boy, Cassius is now 9 months old and thriving.



Re: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???)
Message #1468 posted by nya April 11, 2000 03:34:45 ET
In Reply to: Smoking and Pregnancy (HOW MUCH???) posted by 2nd Trimester January 22, 2000 22:18:25 ET

I am 5 1/2 months pregnant and I just recently started smoking about 2 jionts a day. I strongly feel that since I decided to take up smoking again,it has greatly decreased my hormonal stress.Though I must admit that I'm a bit worried that the doctors will find out and make a huge ordeal out of it.



Re: Super Babies
Message #1501 posted by anonymous April 15, 2000 02:44:02 ET
In Reply to: Super Babies posted by cryote January 28, 2000 07:38:38 ET

Your comments are well taken, however it is sad that you
fail to see that marijuana may likely have longterm effects
on children that don't necessarily show up during infancy.
It is irresponsible to suggest that there seems to be so
many positives to smoking during pregnancy when the jury is
still out. I know someone who smoked two joints a day
throughout her three pregnancies. Is it just a coincidence
that all three chilldren have developed learning
disabilities and are failing in the third and fourth grades.
Exhaulting the merits of smoking pot during pregnancy when
you haven't seen it's devestating effects first hand is
grossly negligent. These children's lives and futures have
been permanently damaged by there mother's actions. It is
sad that people like you are only pointing out short term
benefits to the mother instead of potential lifelong
reprocutions to children. A little nausea is better than
taking any risk in harming your child no matter how great or
small you think it is. How did people get so selfish in this
society, putting their pleasures above their children.




Re: Super Babies
Message #1503 posted by anonymous April 15, 2000 02:49:58 ET
In Reply to: Super Babies posted by cryote January 28, 2000 07:38:38 ET

Your comments are well taken, however it is sad that you
fail to see that marijuana may likely have longterm effects
on children that don't necessarily show up during infancy.
It is irresponsible to suggest that there seems to be so
many positives to smoking during pregnancy when the jury is
still out. I know someone who smoked two joints a day
throughout her three pregnancies. Is it just a coincidence
that all three chilldren have developed learning
disabilities and are failing in the third and fourth grades.
Exhaulting the merits of smoking pot during pregnancy when
you haven't seen it's devestating effects first hand is
grossly negligent. These children's lives and futures have
been permanently damaged by there mother's actions. It is
sad that people like you are only pointing out short term
benefits to the mother instead of potential lifelong
reprocutions to children. A little nausea is better than
taking any risk in harming your child no matter how great or
small you think it is. How did people get so selfish in this
society, putting their pleasures above there ch




Re: Super Babies
Message #2015 posted by anonymous July 16, 2000 02:17:34 ET
In Reply to: Super Babies posted by cryote January 28, 2000 07:38:38 ET

There is no proof that ganja use during pregnacy is harmful. In response to the issue of smoke containing carbon monoxide and inhibiting oxygen flow to the fetus, I suggest the use of tinicture,infusion,or just eating it. No danger can be noted in connection with that.
One person wrote in to comment that she knows of children who developed learning disabilities in pre-pubesence, as (what she thought) a result of the mother's marijuana use during pregnacy. That is inconclusive. While the posibility of a connection does exist, what other factors are there and have they been examined? There are hundreds of thousands of American children who suffer from learning disabilites, would you suggest that they all have some connection to ganja use? Of course not. So appearently there are many factors to be considered when examining the cause of a learning disability.
I can state, for the record, that I personally know many children of parents who've enjoyed ganja during pregnacy who are gifted students, enrolled in accelerated programs. Toddlers, well under the age of two, who can count to ten and communicate at the level of a three year old. Preteens who can identify all of the constellations upon sight. I'm talking about brilliant young people, all exposed to Ganja during pregnacy and via breastmilk. Now I won't argue that it is the ganja that attributes completely to thier brilliance, but I will state that it surely didn't hurt. Peace.




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Message #4439 posted by brooke (Info) March 22, 2004 17:41:43 ET
In Reply to: Re: Super Babies posted by anonymous July 16, 2000 02:17:34 ET

What is tinicture or infusion? I am four months pregnate and have been losing weight drastically. I feel so guilty every time I smoke (because of the smoke) but if I don't have it in my system, I cannot hold food down. I will throw up all day long if I don't puff. I would love to know a safer way to ingest it. Another thing, when I was prenate with my last child I had really bad all day sickness. My doctor prescribed me anti nausea medication. I never took it, choosing instead to smoke in order to eat. That was five years ago. My "baby" is very healthy and intelligent. I recently asked my midwife about that drug, which she told me they found had caused several birth defects in babies at birth due to that drug.
I'll stick to herbs, thanks!




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